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		By: Cave		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2021 06:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://nficstoryboard.com/content/discovering-melanie-ch-17-2/#comment-2109&quot;&gt;Justanotherwriter&lt;/a&gt;.

I appreciate the words of caution, and am thankful you took the time to comment. Few readers take the time to do that, and it helps writers to become better.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://nficstoryboard.com/content/discovering-melanie-ch-17-2/#comment-2109">Justanotherwriter</a>.</p>
<p>I appreciate the words of caution, and am thankful you took the time to comment. Few readers take the time to do that, and it helps writers to become better.</p>
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		By: BPClavel		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2021 04:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Justanotherwriter,  

I have been enjoying your take on this little gem that Cave is polishing for us. Much of what you say rings so true to my ear:&lt;blockquote&gt;You reveal through hesitation, silences, and half-articulated thoughts and your approach preserves not only mystery but suspense. &lt;/blockquote&gt;Well said! (and that&#039;s just one small example chosen somewhat at random) 
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While some of your opinions differ from my own (namely, that Cave&#039;s focus should remain on her core trio) the majority do not. You are offering up a lot of solid advice. It&#039;s clear that we both agree that she is doing an outstanding job, especially given that this is her...&lt;blockquote&gt;...first attempt at writing a story more than a few pages long.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Another point where we agree:&lt;blockquote&gt;You have a good grip on characterization, dialogue, and the right amount of description.  It just needs to be harnessed to a plot that tells your story. &lt;/blockquote&gt;I like that you use the term &quot;your story&quot; in that sentence. And I like that Cave&#039;s reply indicates that she intends to do just that:&lt;blockquote&gt;I ... will not deviate from the main path I’ve set up.&lt;/blockquote&gt;I&#039;ve enjoyed reading your thoughts today and look forward to any future comments you post on this or any other thread!
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A fellow Melanie fan,  

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justanotherwriter,  </p>
<p>I have been enjoying your take on this little gem that Cave is polishing for us. Much of what you say rings so true to my ear:</p>
<blockquote><p>You reveal through hesitation, silences, and half-articulated thoughts and your approach preserves not only mystery but suspense. </p></blockquote>
<p>Well said! (and that&#8217;s just one small example chosen somewhat at random) <br />
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While some of your opinions differ from my own (namely, that Cave&#8217;s focus should remain on her core trio) the majority do not. You are offering up a lot of solid advice. It&#8217;s clear that we both agree that she is doing an outstanding job, especially given that this is her&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;first attempt at writing a story more than a few pages long.</p></blockquote>
<p>Another point where we agree:</p>
<blockquote><p>You have a good grip on characterization, dialogue, and the right amount of description.  It just needs to be harnessed to a plot that tells your story. </p></blockquote>
<p>I like that you use the term &#8220;your story&#8221; in that sentence. And I like that Cave&#8217;s reply indicates that she intends to do just that:</p>
<blockquote><p>I &#8230; will not deviate from the main path I’ve set up.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ve enjoyed reading your thoughts today and look forward to any future comments you post on this or any other thread!<br />
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A fellow Melanie fan,  </p>
<p>Blair</p>
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		By: Justanotherwriter		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2021 00:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cave, Thanks for taking the time to read my comments; I am shocked to hear that this is your first effort into a long form.  You have a great deal of natural talent as well as a good sense of your characters.  Your story is your own and no one has the right to tell you how to do it.  I only felt compelled to comment because I have seen so many promising starts peter out.   I don&#039;t know how old you are but I am probably old enough to be your father if not your grandfather; if you can integrate all the new people into the story, then God love you, but just keep the structural dangers in mind. When a writer thinks of all the narrative possibilities, it is hard sometimes to identify the moment when the story should start and when it should end; as well as to keep it focused in between.  You began your story exactly at its beginning.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cave, Thanks for taking the time to read my comments; I am shocked to hear that this is your first effort into a long form.  You have a great deal of natural talent as well as a good sense of your characters.  Your story is your own and no one has the right to tell you how to do it.  I only felt compelled to comment because I have seen so many promising starts peter out.   I don&#8217;t know how old you are but I am probably old enough to be your father if not your grandfather; if you can integrate all the new people into the story, then God love you, but just keep the structural dangers in mind. When a writer thinks of all the narrative possibilities, it is hard sometimes to identify the moment when the story should start and when it should end; as well as to keep it focused in between.  You began your story exactly at its beginning.</p>
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		By: Cave		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2021 20:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://nficstoryboard.com/content/discovering-melanie-ch-17-2/#comment-2106&quot;&gt;Justanotherwriter&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you for your comment, Justanotherwriter. I appreciate the thoughts and suggestions.

However, please understand that this is my first attempt at writing a story more than a few pages long. For me, this is just a hobby.

You warn me of being in danger of losing the thread, but I choose to trust in my sense of the characters involved. Please note that this story is not narrowly defined around three characters. It is defined around the main character, and other characters will continue to cross her path to varying effect.

Perhaps this is not the way a professional writer sets up a story, but this is how I enjoy writing it, and for me that is more important.

I will carefully consider what you have said, but will not deviate from the main path I&#039;ve set up.

It is unfortunate that you feel certain parts are grating, but hopefully you will enjoy the story as it progresses.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://nficstoryboard.com/content/discovering-melanie-ch-17-2/#comment-2106">Justanotherwriter</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you for your comment, Justanotherwriter. I appreciate the thoughts and suggestions.</p>
<p>However, please understand that this is my first attempt at writing a story more than a few pages long. For me, this is just a hobby.</p>
<p>You warn me of being in danger of losing the thread, but I choose to trust in my sense of the characters involved. Please note that this story is not narrowly defined around three characters. It is defined around the main character, and other characters will continue to cross her path to varying effect.</p>
<p>Perhaps this is not the way a professional writer sets up a story, but this is how I enjoy writing it, and for me that is more important.</p>
<p>I will carefully consider what you have said, but will not deviate from the main path I&#8217;ve set up.</p>
<p>It is unfortunate that you feel certain parts are grating, but hopefully you will enjoy the story as it progresses.</p>
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		By: Justanotherwriter		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2021 18:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dear Cave,
This is one of the most remarkable erotic stories I have ever seen.  You have a wonderfully light, understated touch that reminds me of the best of Ernst Hemmingway&#039;s short stories.  You reveal through hesitation, silences, and half-articulated thoughts and your approach preserves not only mystery but suspense.  Your two core female characters are well-realized; the boyfriend is a little bit of a puzzle but I appreciate that we are dealing the the limited 0miniscioent POV of a slightly unreliable narrator, so that&#039;s OK.I want to start by showing how good the story started out because I want to warn you that you are in danger of losing the thread.  I am a professional writer and the question I always ask myself, is what is my story?  Your story is Melanie&#039;s self discovery aided by Josy and to a smaller extent by her boyfriend.  This is a three corner game.  You are in danger of making the mistake that many writers of long form serial fiction make, of advancing the story by inserting new characters.  This is just a distraction--and the scenes in recent chapters with the gay roommate do nor ring true.  Melanie is not going to be more adventurous with someone she hardly knows.  And since there are obvious feelings for Josy, it doesn&#039;t make Melanie look good.   
This this was dynamite for the first seven or eight chapters and then settled down to a slow steady pace, which is fine, but when the gay roommate came in, it started jumping the shark.  Please get back to telling the story that started off so well.  And I won&#039;t mind if you pick up the pace, but that is a personal comment.  Ask yourself, are you telling the story of a sexual coming of age, or the story of a four year college romance?  Answering that question will give you your pace.  And it is not necessary for everyone to be constantly apologizing.  A little is fine and even expected. If you did an analysis you might find that it comes up as often as the names of the characters. (I am exaggerating but the number of repetitions is grating.  Say it in another way if you have to. This is a great piece of work.  You have a good grip on characterization, dialogue, and the right amount of description.  It just needs to be harnessed to a plot that tells your story.  Good luck!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Cave,<br />
This is one of the most remarkable erotic stories I have ever seen.  You have a wonderfully light, understated touch that reminds me of the best of Ernst Hemmingway&#8217;s short stories.  You reveal through hesitation, silences, and half-articulated thoughts and your approach preserves not only mystery but suspense.  Your two core female characters are well-realized; the boyfriend is a little bit of a puzzle but I appreciate that we are dealing the the limited 0miniscioent POV of a slightly unreliable narrator, so that&#8217;s OK.I want to start by showing how good the story started out because I want to warn you that you are in danger of losing the thread.  I am a professional writer and the question I always ask myself, is what is my story?  Your story is Melanie&#8217;s self discovery aided by Josy and to a smaller extent by her boyfriend.  This is a three corner game.  You are in danger of making the mistake that many writers of long form serial fiction make, of advancing the story by inserting new characters.  This is just a distraction&#8211;and the scenes in recent chapters with the gay roommate do nor ring true.  Melanie is not going to be more adventurous with someone she hardly knows.  And since there are obvious feelings for Josy, it doesn&#8217;t make Melanie look good.   <br />
This this was dynamite for the first seven or eight chapters and then settled down to a slow steady pace, which is fine, but when the gay roommate came in, it started jumping the shark.  Please get back to telling the story that started off so well.  And I won&#8217;t mind if you pick up the pace, but that is a personal comment.  Ask yourself, are you telling the story of a sexual coming of age, or the story of a four year college romance?  Answering that question will give you your pace.  And it is not necessary for everyone to be constantly apologizing.  A little is fine and even expected. If you did an analysis you might find that it comes up as often as the names of the characters. (I am exaggerating but the number of repetitions is grating.  Say it in another way if you have to. This is a great piece of work.  You have a good grip on characterization, dialogue, and the right amount of description.  It just needs to be harnessed to a plot that tells your story.  Good luck!</p>
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		By: Cave		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2021 07:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://nficstoryboard.com/content/discovering-melanie-ch-17-2/#comment-2101&quot;&gt;BPClavel&lt;/a&gt;.

Blair, thank you for your comment.
&lt;blockquote&gt;Your dialogue is so good! “Passable,” for example&lt;/blockquote&gt;
That&#039;s better than &lt;em&gt;Your dialogue is passable. &quot;So good!,&quot; for example.&lt;/em&gt; :)
&lt;blockquote&gt;But these little touches in class inject real tension into the scene.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I&#039;m glad that the scene managed to convey this. Just as Melanie thought it was childish, the writing might have appeared childish.
&lt;blockquote&gt;And I find myself learning too … discovering subtle hints about what makes a story captivating.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I like that we can learn from each other through our writing and comments, knowing how much I learned from reading your two stories on IO&#039;s board. However, I&#039;m not very good at accepting compliments.... so...

I&#039;m very much looking forward to your next work of art.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://nficstoryboard.com/content/discovering-melanie-ch-17-2/#comment-2101">BPClavel</a>.</p>
<p>Blair, thank you for your comment.</p>
<blockquote><p>Your dialogue is so good! “Passable,” for example</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s better than <em>Your dialogue is passable. &#8220;So good!,&#8221; for example.</em> 🙂</p>
<blockquote><p>But these little touches in class inject real tension into the scene.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m glad that the scene managed to convey this. Just as Melanie thought it was childish, the writing might have appeared childish.</p>
<blockquote><p>And I find myself learning too … discovering subtle hints about what makes a story captivating.</p></blockquote>
<p>I like that we can learn from each other through our writing and comments, knowing how much I learned from reading your two stories on IO&#8217;s board. However, I&#8217;m not very good at accepting compliments&#8230;. so&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m very much looking forward to your next work of art.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2021 05:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cave, 
Your dialogue is so good! “Passable,” for example. So much about Josy and her mood comes across in a single word intended to describe Mel’s jeans. (three birds with one stone)
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Maybe this is my favorite Melanie chapter to date. I love how much mileage you get out of these light touches. Part of what makes it fun is that it confuses Melanie. Why is Brian doing that? Now if he grabbed her and kissed her, there would be no question why he was doing it. But these little touches in class inject real tension into the scene. Funny how one writer can put more passion into a touch than some writers manage to get into their sex scenes.
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For me, Reese is probably the highlight of the week. Her scenes, so good. And largely for the same reason that I liked Brian’s light touches. Melanie receives some clothes. It injects some confusion into our lead character’s life. Why these items? Why is she sending them to me? 
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So many writers are focused on what is happening. He did A to her. She did B to him. Together they did C to whomever. Such writers could learn so much from you. And I find myself learning too … discovering subtle hints about what makes a story captivating. 
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For example, I am impressed with Reese’s maturity. She’s not another Josy or another Brian. She’s definitely different. She offers clothes and encourages Mel to consider wearing them, but she is not hurt when it doesn’t happen. She suggests that Mel might drop by in about an hour, saying, “…it could be fun. Especially if you wear your chemise.”
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Now, I think this is an awesome little cliffhanger to end on. I also know that I want Mel to go – because I want to learn more about Reese and I want to meet Alli. I also know that if Mel doesn’t go, and we all know she might not, that Reese will react maturely. Her feelings won’t be hurt.
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And, on a final note, the conversations about getting a larger bed: Good job, Mel! 
Blair]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cave,<br />
Your dialogue is so good! “Passable,” for example. So much about Josy and her mood comes across in a single word intended to describe Mel’s jeans. (three birds with one stone)<br />
&nbsp;<br />
Maybe this is my favorite Melanie chapter to date. I love how much mileage you get out of these light touches. Part of what makes it fun is that it confuses Melanie. Why is Brian doing that? Now if he grabbed her and kissed her, there would be no question why he was doing it. But these little touches in class inject real tension into the scene. Funny how one writer can put more passion into a touch than some writers manage to get into their sex scenes.<br />
&nbsp;<br />
For me, Reese is probably the highlight of the week. Her scenes, so good. And largely for the same reason that I liked Brian’s light touches. Melanie receives some clothes. It injects some confusion into our lead character’s life. Why these items? Why is she sending them to me?<br />
&nbsp;<br />
So many writers are focused on what is happening. He did A to her. She did B to him. Together they did C to whomever. Such writers could learn so much from you. And I find myself learning too … discovering subtle hints about what makes a story captivating.<br />
&nbsp;<br />
For example, I am impressed with Reese’s maturity. She’s not another Josy or another Brian. She’s definitely different. She offers clothes and encourages Mel to consider wearing them, but she is not hurt when it doesn’t happen. She suggests that Mel might drop by in about an hour, saying, “…it could be fun. Especially if you wear your chemise.”<br />
&nbsp;<br />
Now, I think this is an awesome little cliffhanger to end on. I also know that I want Mel to go – because I want to learn more about Reese and I want to meet Alli. I also know that if Mel doesn’t go, and we all know she might not, that Reese will react maturely. Her feelings won’t be hurt.<br />
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And, on a final note, the conversations about getting a larger bed: Good job, Mel!<br />
Blair</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2021 14:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://nficstoryboard.com/content/discovering-melanie-ch-17-2/#comment-2093&quot;&gt;ReaderMan&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;Just toss in a...&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
haha
(unlikely)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://nficstoryboard.com/content/discovering-melanie-ch-17-2/#comment-2093">ReaderMan</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Just toss in a&#8230;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>haha<br />
(unlikely)</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2021 20:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://nficstoryboard.com/content/discovering-melanie-ch-17-2/#comment-2089&quot;&gt;Cave&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Do you like the back and forth, or do you like the ‘rule’?(you can like both)&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I&#039;ll chose both. The banter about why she was naked and also the rule for her to be naked. The side bonus is that it&#039;s Melanie herself that chose to automatically comply. This is such a fun healthy relationship.

&lt;em&gt;Just toss in a collar and leash and it would be perfect. (just kidding!)&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;Yes, it does seem like Reese is not that serious about relationships. A bit at odds with what she said in the common room, right?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I hate to say it, because Reese is an interesting character. But Melanie should be wary of such an individual, even if she seems fun sometimes. Feeling some red flags. She might say or do anything, this one.]]></description>
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<blockquote><p>Do you like the back and forth, or do you like the ‘rule’?(you can like both)</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ll chose both. The banter about why she was naked and also the rule for her to be naked. The side bonus is that it&#8217;s Melanie herself that chose to automatically comply. This is such a fun healthy relationship.</p>
<p><em>Just toss in a collar and leash and it would be perfect. (just kidding!)</em></p>
<blockquote><p>Yes, it does seem like Reese is not that serious about relationships. A bit at odds with what she said in the common room, right?</p></blockquote>
<p>I hate to say it, because Reese is an interesting character. But Melanie should be wary of such an individual, even if she seems fun sometimes. Feeling some red flags. She might say or do anything, this one.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2021 19:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://nficstoryboard.com/content/discovering-melanie-ch-17-2/#comment-2088&quot;&gt;arthwys&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you for you comment. Yes, they both seem like shy individuals, occasionally showing some courage.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://nficstoryboard.com/content/discovering-melanie-ch-17-2/#comment-2088">arthwys</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you for you comment. Yes, they both seem like shy individuals, occasionally showing some courage.</p>
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